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Tolkien’s Collected Poems Update

April 21, 2024

Our thanks to all who have written to us with congratulations and set a new record for views of this blog. News of the Collected Poems has caused not a little excitement. It has also led to not a few questions, chief among which has been: What will the book include? Will it have the complete Lay of the Fall of Gondolin? Will it have Tolkien’s verse translation of Beowulf? Will it have his rumoured bestiary poems about the Fox and the Unicorn? And especially (if very curiously), will it have The Complaint of Mîm the Dwarf, which so far has been published only in German translation?

We regret that we can say only so much about the contents at this time, beyond what we already have – it’s up to our publisher, and to the Tolkien Estate, to decide how much publicity to release, what, and when. But we can say that almost any poem a potential reader can name is likely to be present in the book, except for most of those in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, as we earlier made clear. The Bookseller magazine unfortunately took liberties with HarperCollins’ press release, declaring the Collected Poems to be ‘the first time all the author’s poems will appear in one volume’: it won’t be quite complete, nor will it will be only one volume.

There will be an American edition, from William Morrow, which should be identical to the copies issued by HarperCollins U.K. except for the imprint. This has been announced for 17 September, five days later than the U.K. release on 12 September, with the list price $125. We’ve seen some complaints that the U.K. list price of £90 is steep, but that is for three thick volumes (and a box), after all, and before any bookseller’s discount. Another forthcoming book related to Tolkien we’ve seen advertised is priced at only a little less than the Collected Poems at list, yet has only about a quarter of the length; for that, one might legitimately grouse.

Speaking of length, we finished our work on the book only today and sent it off to HarperCollins to go to press. There was just a little kerfuffle at the eleventh hour, when we learned of strict limits on volume length due to the way the book is to be printed, but we were able to meet these without much trouble. We’ve neatly ended up with three volumes of 540 pages each, or 1620 pages in all. Volume 1 will have 92 pages of preliminaries – an introduction and a brief chronology of Tolkien’s poetry – followed by the first 448 pages of the poems proper. Volume 2 then will have the first 12 pages of the preliminaries repeated (so that the complete table of contents is in each volume), followed by another 528 pages of poems, and volume 3 will have the same preliminaries again, the final 434 pages of poems and appendices, and a glossary, bibliography, and index to the three volumes which are continuously paginated.

In the past week or so we’ve read through the text again and made the odd tweak. One could tweak endlessly, but the time has come to hand it over, take a rest (sort of: there are shrubs to prune), and move on to other Tolkien matters, not least the addenda and corrigenda to our other books we’ve been gathering for two or three years and will be reporting here.

10 Comments leave one →
  1. Alan Reynolds permalink
    April 21, 2024 12:16 pm

    Thanks very much for the update, Wayne and Christina. I can’t wait for September.

  2. Tim Vandenberg permalink
    April 21, 2024 3:11 pm

    Hoping for inclusion & commentary on the Little House (Cottage) of Lost Play, in its earliest poetic forms, from BLT1. For decades I’ve felt a strong sense that that poem reveals one of Tolkien’s very earliest expressions of deep yearning for things imaginative from J.R.R. the orphan, as he so poignantly and powerfully expresses in that poem the universal childhood drive to imagine. Such yearnings then shone forth, of course, in magnanimous forms through all things Middle-Earth for the rest of his authorial career. But here, in the Little House (Cottage) poems, we see its very first glimpses.

    Regardless, we all look forward to your (certainly to be amazing) new book on Tolkien’s poetry! Congratulations!

  3. Steven M. Frisby permalink
    April 21, 2024 3:50 pm

    Congratulations, and thanks for all your hard work. Tolkien readers and scholars alike are in your debt!
    Steven Frisby

  4. April 21, 2024 9:07 pm

    Thanks from so many of us who are not only grateful for both of your considerable efforts to prepare these volumes, but also for your continued dedication to keeping us all updated and offering as much information as you are able. Every update is a joy to read. I don’t know how anyone can complain about this price, which is very reasonable for 3 volumes, but especially so considering the amount of new material and the amount of work that has no doubt gone into this. On top of that is both of your reputations as meticulous scholars of the highest order. Even though there’s more work to be done, I hope you both can take a well deserved breather with the initial manuscript turned over. Congratulations and thanks again!!!

  5. April 22, 2024 5:25 am

    Thank you for the update and congratulations on completion. I am so excited for the publication and am literally counting down the days. Whatever has been chosen will be welcomed excitedly, even if you have chosen to exclude Bleak Heave the Billows hehe.

    On the price, another volume I have on order is more expensive than this, and at less than 400 pages puts this box very much at the affordable end, especially considering the work involved. I would not take too much interest in opinions that believe 1620 pages across 3 large volumes in a box at £90 retail before discounts is too high. I have the box locked in at £60 delivered and frankly I believe that is too cheap, but I will of course take it.

    At 18 pence per page rwtail I am not sure what people expect. They would not write or edit a page of text for 18 pence. If the price had been £150 I would still consider it good value!

    Looking forward to the next updates to your previous work but please, as a gardener myself, prune those shrubs first 🙂

    Again, congratulations.

    onthetrail

  6. April 22, 2024 4:13 pm

    I can’t wait for September, thanks, Christina and Wayne!

  7. April 23, 2024 5:23 pm

    I’ll reserve some space in my library for these 1620 pages. Another wonderful job done by the legendary Scull/Hammond corporation. What would be do without both of you!

  8. Web Bridges permalink
    April 26, 2024 9:03 am

    Looking forward to Poems and have already placed my pre-order. But am thoroughly intrigued by “Another forthcoming book related to Tolkien we’ve seen advertised is priced at only a little less …” Do tell.

    Best,

    Web

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